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	<title>Comments on: The Vaccination Decision: Vaccines and Autism</title>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you read mainstream medicine's "Bible" - the Merck Manual, you will learn that the vast majority of diseases have no known cause. When you have no cause, all you have left is treatment. Treatments make more money than finding the cause. Mainstream medicine does not want to find the cause of autism especially if it related to vaccines or antibiotics. Isn't it interesting that we can send men into space, send minute cameras into the body, look at live blood, but we have no idea what causes autism, allergies, ADHD, or asthma? There is big money to make treating people for life. Medicine has become BIG business instead of about really healing people. It is only a grassroots movement that will find the cause or cure for most diseases. So, yes, I will definitely listen to "a couple of people, half of whom have no training or credentials", before I will listen to the FDA, CDC, Academy of Pediatrics, or NIH - because the credentials mean they only think within the allowed box of mainstream medicine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you read mainstream medicine&#8217;s &#8220;Bible&#8221; - the Merck Manual, you will learn that the vast majority of diseases have no known cause. When you have no cause, all you have left is treatment. Treatments make more money than finding the cause. Mainstream medicine does not want to find the cause of autism especially if it related to vaccines or antibiotics. Isn&#8217;t it interesting that we can send men into space, send minute cameras into the body, look at live blood, but we have no idea what causes autism, allergies, ADHD, or asthma? There is big money to make treating people for life. Medicine has become BIG business instead of about really healing people. It is only a grassroots movement that will find the cause or cure for most diseases. So, yes, I will definitely listen to &#8220;a couple of people, half of whom have no training or credentials&#8221;, before I will listen to the FDA, CDC, Academy of Pediatrics, or NIH - because the credentials mean they only think within the allowed box of mainstream medicine.</p>
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		<title>By: Court rules no link between vaccines and autism &#124; The Green Parent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Court rules no link between vaccines and autism &#124; The Green Parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PhD in Epidemiology</title>
		<link>http://www.thegreenparent.com/2009/02/05/the-vaccination-decision-vaccines-and-autism/comment-page-1/#comment-4209</link>
		<dc:creator>PhD in Epidemiology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;And so we’re back to square one.&lt;/I&gt;

Are you kidding?  I hope to god you're kidding.

Look at who is on the "there's no link side" - the CDC; the American Academy of Pediatrics; an academic pediatrician vaccine specialist at the best pediatrics hospital in the country; the FDA; and the NIH.

On the other side: a northern Florida non-profit run by a Toni Krehel, AP; the Autism Research Institute; a non-peer reviewed book; Jenny McCarthy and her organization; and a personal blog by a non-scientist.

On one side, that is, you have the entirety of all the opinions of all mainstream science and medicine in this country; and on the other you have a couple of people, half of whom have no training or credentials of any kind.

If you are truly going to throw up your hands and say, well, there's no way of knowing, then you should stop blogging on this subject entirely. There is NO CONTROVERSY HERE: and you are hurting people by pretending that there is one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And so we’re back to square one.</i></p>
<p>Are you kidding?  I hope to god you&#8217;re kidding.</p>
<p>Look at who is on the &#8220;there&#8217;s no link side&#8221; - the CDC; the American Academy of Pediatrics; an academic pediatrician vaccine specialist at the best pediatrics hospital in the country; the FDA; and the NIH.</p>
<p>On the other side: a northern Florida non-profit run by a Toni Krehel, AP; the Autism Research Institute; a non-peer reviewed book; Jenny McCarthy and her organization; and a personal blog by a non-scientist.</p>
<p>On one side, that is, you have the entirety of all the opinions of all mainstream science and medicine in this country; and on the other you have a couple of people, half of whom have no training or credentials of any kind.</p>
<p>If you are truly going to throw up your hands and say, well, there&#8217;s no way of knowing, then you should stop blogging on this subject entirely. There is NO CONTROVERSY HERE: and you are hurting people by pretending that there is one.</p>
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		<title>By: Jhet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jhet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read a study done by the IATP that states there is mercury in high fructose corn syrup.

Could this be a cause of rising autism? Isn't that why some people say that vaccines cause autism? Because of the mercury? I don’t know if mercury will cause autism but here is some more information on the study I found: http://blog.calorie-help.com/2009/02/09/high-fructose-corn-syrup-andautism/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read a study done by the IATP that states there is mercury in high fructose corn syrup.</p>
<p>Could this be a cause of rising autism? Isn&#8217;t that why some people say that vaccines cause autism? Because of the mercury? I don’t know if mercury will cause autism but here is some more information on the study I found: <a href="http://blog.calorie-help.com/2009/02/09/high-fructose-corn-syrup-andautism/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.calorie-help.com/2009/02/09/high-fructose-corn-syrup-andautism/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tina</title>
		<link>http://www.thegreenparent.com/2009/02/05/the-vaccination-decision-vaccines-and-autism/comment-page-1/#comment-4171</link>
		<dc:creator>Tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 19:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a dear friend from my husband's family practice residency days with two autistic children...and he vaccinates kids!  That speaks very loudly to me!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a dear friend from my husband&#8217;s family practice residency days with two autistic children&#8230;and he vaccinates kids!  That speaks very loudly to me!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Liz Ditz</title>
		<link>http://www.thegreenparent.com/2009/02/05/the-vaccination-decision-vaccines-and-autism/comment-page-1/#comment-4143</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz Ditz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 05:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you will cover the latest from the UK:

Andrew Wakefield, the UK physician who first claimed a connection between the MMR vaccine and autism, fabricated most of his data.

The most in-depth review is at Science-Based Medicine.

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=370

Antivaccine hero Andrew Wakefield: Scientific fraud?
Published by David Gorski under Science and the Media, Vaccines
Comments: 11

Pity poor Andrew Wakefield.

Actually, on second thought, Wakefield deserves no pity at all. After all, he is the man who almost single-handedly launched the scare over the MMR vaccine in Britain when he published his infamous Lancet paper in 1998 in which he claimed to have linked the MMR vaccine to regressive autism and inflammation of the colon, a study that was followed up four years later with a paper that claimed to have found the strain of attenuated measles virus in the MMR in the colons of autistic children by polymerase chain reaction (PCR). It would be one thing if these studies were sound science. If that were the case, then Wakefield’s work would have been very important and would have correctly cast doubt on the safety of the MMR. Unfortunately, they were not, and, indeed, most of the authors of the 1998 Lancet paper later withdrew their names from it.

I've done another round-up post -- who is saying what about the Deer articles on Wakefield in the London Times.  


&lt;a href="http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_dreams/2009/02/11-years-on-wakefield-manufactured-data-showing-mmrautism-link.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;11 years on, Wakefield Manufactured Data showing MMR-Autism Link?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you will cover the latest from the UK:</p>
<p>Andrew Wakefield, the UK physician who first claimed a connection between the MMR vaccine and autism, fabricated most of his data.</p>
<p>The most in-depth review is at Science-Based Medicine.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=370" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=370</a></p>
<p>Antivaccine hero Andrew Wakefield: Scientific fraud?<br />
Published by David Gorski under Science and the Media, Vaccines<br />
Comments: 11</p>
<p>Pity poor Andrew Wakefield.</p>
<p>Actually, on second thought, Wakefield deserves no pity at all. After all, he is the man who almost single-handedly launched the scare over the MMR vaccine in Britain when he published his infamous Lancet paper in 1998 in which he claimed to have linked the MMR vaccine to regressive autism and inflammation of the colon, a study that was followed up four years later with a paper that claimed to have found the strain of attenuated measles virus in the MMR in the colons of autistic children by polymerase chain reaction (PCR). It would be one thing if these studies were sound science. If that were the case, then Wakefield’s work would have been very important and would have correctly cast doubt on the safety of the MMR. Unfortunately, they were not, and, indeed, most of the authors of the 1998 Lancet paper later withdrew their names from it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve done another round-up post &#8212; who is saying what about the Deer articles on Wakefield in the London Times.  </p>
<p><a href="http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_dreams/2009/02/11-years-on-wakefield-manufactured-data-showing-mmrautism-link.html" rel="nofollow">11 years on, Wakefield Manufactured Data showing MMR-Autism Link?</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brooke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 05:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well actually there is no genetic cause. A genetic cause to autism was searched for and not found. Even more interesting is that with identical twins, one may have severe autism and the other twin may be perfectly normal. Meaning that conditions in the womb and genetics cannot account for autism. Although it is possible that vaccines could turn on a autism gene or turn off another gene that helps to regulate how the body functions in numerous ways. Viruses can cause this gene regulation. So can hormones and numerous other environmental factors. So vaccines could cause autism in one child and a child whose mom consumed too much tuna during pregnancy could cause another child to be autistic. Or the strain of the virus in the vaccines itself could cause this neurological damage as seen in the past with certain flu epidemics where people exposed became catatonic. 

However the last study mentioned did not find autism was not caused by vaccines or a series of vaccines. It simply found that earlier data showing the MMR vaccine virus strain in the digestive systems of autistic children was inaccurate. That is far from proving that autism is not caused by or made worse by vaccines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well actually there is no genetic cause. A genetic cause to autism was searched for and not found. Even more interesting is that with identical twins, one may have severe autism and the other twin may be perfectly normal. Meaning that conditions in the womb and genetics cannot account for autism. Although it is possible that vaccines could turn on a autism gene or turn off another gene that helps to regulate how the body functions in numerous ways. Viruses can cause this gene regulation. So can hormones and numerous other environmental factors. So vaccines could cause autism in one child and a child whose mom consumed too much tuna during pregnancy could cause another child to be autistic. Or the strain of the virus in the vaccines itself could cause this neurological damage as seen in the past with certain flu epidemics where people exposed became catatonic. </p>
<p>However the last study mentioned did not find autism was not caused by vaccines or a series of vaccines. It simply found that earlier data showing the MMR vaccine virus strain in the digestive systems of autistic children was inaccurate. That is far from proving that autism is not caused by or made worse by vaccines.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 17:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very, very heated (and diffuclt) debate.  Both of my children are on the autism spectrum and so for the past 2.5 years, I've read everything I can get my hands on about the vaccine/autism debate.  I know that a lot of people are wanting to differentiate between autistic-like symptoms that arise from heavy metal/mercury poisoning and "true autism" which is difficult to do.

I know of mommas who have never vaccinated their child, have never been vaccinated themselves and had intervention and drug free pregnancies/homebirths but still have a child with autism.  I also know other mommas who have had their child regress significantly after receiving vaccines so as you said at the end, we're back to square one.

In the case of my kiddos, my vote goes for a genetic predisposition to autism/Asperger's syndrome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very, very heated (and diffuclt) debate.  Both of my children are on the autism spectrum and so for the past 2.5 years, I&#8217;ve read everything I can get my hands on about the vaccine/autism debate.  I know that a lot of people are wanting to differentiate between autistic-like symptoms that arise from heavy metal/mercury poisoning and &#8220;true autism&#8221; which is difficult to do.</p>
<p>I know of mommas who have never vaccinated their child, have never been vaccinated themselves and had intervention and drug free pregnancies/homebirths but still have a child with autism.  I also know other mommas who have had their child regress significantly after receiving vaccines so as you said at the end, we&#8217;re back to square one.</p>
<p>In the case of my kiddos, my vote goes for a genetic predisposition to autism/Asperger&#8217;s syndrome.</p>
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		<title>By: The Vaccination Decision: Is There Middle Ground? &#124; Go Green Living</title>
		<link>http://www.thegreenparent.com/2009/02/05/the-vaccination-decision-vaccines-and-autism/comment-page-1/#comment-4045</link>
		<dc:creator>The Vaccination Decision: Is There Middle Ground? &#124; Go Green Living</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 12:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Vaccination Decision: Vaccines and Autism &#124; Go Green Living</title>
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